Tuesday, December 31, 2013

Limey Limmud Lesson Learned

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Just how inclusive is inclusive? Every one has their own red line, as Rabbi Shafran so eloquently demonstrates.


  1. There are a few questions that need to be asked
    Does ignoring the non-frum attempts at "learning" because it doesn't fit the mold of actual Torah learning benefit the non-frum? Did the non-frum benefit from hearing Rav Mirvish speak? Did his presence at the convention give a backhanded legitimacy to the non-Orthodox clergy there?
    Does Rav Mirvish crave acceptance from the secular liberals or his Orthodox brethren?

  2. These are all good questions, but better left for people bigger than you and I.

    If I had to answer, I would say:

    1. I don't know
    2. Most probably
    3. I don't know
    4. Probably neither

  3. My answer would be:
    1) Theoretically no but any benefit from seeing how to properly learn might be negated by the non-frum people who then want to demonstrate their type of "learning" as equivalent.
    2) Yes but like someone with no music education hearing a fine classic they probably didn't appreciate him as much as they should have
    3) Yes, it did. One of their rabbis, one of our rabbis, they're all rabbis!
    4) In his current position he's a politician, whether he likes it or not. And what do politicians crave?


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